For nearly two years, we've been discussing work, performance and learning on this podcast. But we've never yet tackled 'learning design'. This week on the GoodPractice Podcast, Ross G and James are joined by ELTjam's Nick Robinson to do just that.

We explore the controversial idea that you can't design 'learning', compare approaches, and ask whether compliance training can be 'delightful'.

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Vygotsky's 'zone of proximal development' is explained well on Wikipedia.

The podcasts Ross recommended were: Song by Song and Houston, We Have a Podcast. Both are available on iTunes.

Finally, for tickets to our upcoming live show, visit goodpractice.com.