Everyone and their uncle is a learner, but does this mean that everyone knows about learning? Our guest this week, Mirjam Neelen, thinks not.

This week, she joins Ross G and Owen to talk about the evidence base that we should all be referring to when designing experiences.

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Mirjam blogs at 3starlearningexperiences.wordpress.com.

The article that Owen referenced, on the need for evidence in surgery, was from The Guardian. It's available at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jul/05/uks-top-surgeon-calls-new-procedures-undergo-clinical-trials

The Ben Goldacre reference is at: https://fivebooks.com/best-books/best-books-unexpected-economics-tim-harford/

Ross' 'What I Learned This Week' was based on a discussion in the Song by Song podcast, about Tom Waits' 'Burma Shave'.

You can listen to the podcast at http://www.songbysongpodcast.com/. The song is on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug7DZG1F6bs. And, for more background on Burma-Shave billboards, check out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma-Shave#Roadside_billboards.

The book that Ross referenced, The Surprising Truth About How We Learn, does not exist. It was meant as a comment on pop science titles but, if anyone wants to use this title, feel free.